{"id":40860,"date":"2025-11-19T12:39:05","date_gmt":"2025-11-19T17:39:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/?p=40860"},"modified":"2025-11-19T12:39:05","modified_gmt":"2025-11-19T17:39:05","slug":"global-geoengineering-operation-exposed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/?p=40860","title":{"rendered":"<h2>GLOBAL GEOENGINEERING OPERATION EXPOSED<\/h2>"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 class=\"title entry-title\">Transcript: Dane Wigington\u2019s Interview on Tucker Carlson Show<\/h1>\n<p><em>Here is the full transcript of American activist and commentator Dane Wigington\u2019s interview on Tucker Carlson Show titled \u201cUS Government Admits Chemtrails Are Real (It\u2019s Worse Than You Think)\u201d, November 10, 2025.<\/em><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Questions We\u2019re Not Allowed to Ask<\/h2>\n<div class=\"content-visible\">\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0It\u2019s always the obvious questions that are so vigorously discouraged. And one of the questions that\u2019s been the most discouraged over the past 30 years are: what are those lines in the sky that you see trailing jets? What is that?<\/p>\n<p>Some people call them chemtrails, claim that somehow the US government is spraying poison on the population. Those people are clearly crazy. Wikipedia calls them crazy, every news outlet calls them crazy. But the trails are still there and it\u2019s clear. Not water vapor, because that doesn\u2019t make sense at all.<\/p>\n<p>So what are they? We spent the last six months trying to find someone credible who could explain that to us. A serious, sane person with an engineering background who could tell us what are we looking at? Because we\u2019re looking at something, and I don\u2019t care what names you call me, I still want to know what it is.<\/p>\n<p>And we think we have found that person. Dane Wigington of Northern California has been on this subject for almost 30 years and has compiled what we believe, after looking at it pretty carefully, is the most comprehensive account of what we\u2019re seeing. And it\u2019s very bad.<\/p>\n<p>Dane, thanks a lot for joining us. I never knew what to think of this topic. Chemtrails or contrails or the stripes in the sky that linger after airplanes pass. I don\u2019t remember them as a child. They\u2019re very common now. I\u2019ve heard people say there\u2019s something up, something nefarious going on.<\/p>\n<p>So I go to Wikipedia to see what they say. And I want to read you the Wikipedia entry, the first part of it on this question.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"show-more-57461\" class=\"content-hidden\">\n<p>Okay, you may have seen this and I\u2019m quoting from Wikipedia as of this morning:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe chemtrail conspiracy theory is the erroneous belief that long lasting condensation trails left in the sky by high flying aircraft are actually \u2018chemtrails\u2019 consisting of chemical or biological agents sprayed for nefarious purposes undisclosed to the general public. But believers in this conspiracy theory say that while normal contrails dissipate relatively quickly, contrails that linger must contain additional substances. Those who subscribe to the theory speculate that the purpose of the chemical release may be solar radiation management, weather modification, psychological manipulation, human population control, biological or chemical warfare, or testing of a biological or chemical agent on the population and that the trails are causing respiratory illnesses and other health problems.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So I read that. And the purpose, of course, of that paragraph is not to illuminate what this might be, but to attack anyone who speculates about what it might be. It\u2019s a form itself of psychological warfare. Of propaganda.<\/p>\n<p>And when I read that, I said to myself, there\u2019s clearly something going on because the people who control Wikipedia, which would be the intel agencies, as we know, don\u2019t want anyone to talk about this. So with that lengthy preface explaining why this conversation is taking place, I will turn it over to you to explain. What are these lines in the sky that we have all seen?<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">It\u2019s Not a Theory, It\u2019s Documented Reality<\/h2>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0There\u2019s sprayed particulate dispersion. There is no theory in this equation. Bottom line is when we have up close film footage of these aircraft at altitude, KC-10s, KC-135s, C-17 Globemasters with nozzles visible, turning dispersions on and off. This is not \u201ccondensation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>GeoEngineeringWatch.org is the only entity that has taken a NOAA flying lab, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration flying lab, top scientists in it, to sample what these heavy aircraft are emitting at altitude. That sample was processed at Rensselaer Polytechnic in New York, one of the world\u2019s most renowned testing institutions.<\/p>\n<p>We found exactly what we knew we would find, starting with aluminum nanoparticles. Bioavailable freeform aluminum is toxic to all life, period. That element is named in numerous climate engineering patents as part of a geoengineering dispersion element. So again, there\u2019s no theory involved in any of this.<\/p>\n<p>And what\u2019s so incredibly profound in this equation, Tucker, you have the entire global climate science community, governments all over the world, saying we need to put aircraft in the air immediately to disperse light scattering particles. We use the terms at GeoEngineeringWatch.org because the chemtrails term is the instant marginalization term. By design.<\/p>\n<p>You bring that term up, any elected official won\u2019t talk to you anymore. Media will immediately marginalize you. Solar radiation management, stratospheric aerosol injection, cloud albedo enhancement, climate engineering. If we stick to the science terms, they can\u2019t marginalize us.<\/p>\n<p>So again, this elephant in the sky that we are told is a conspiracy theory is exactly what the entire global climate science community says we need to deploy immediately to slow down the warming of the planet. Stated purpose: to deflect some of the sun\u2019s incoming thermal energy. We know these programs, not surprisingly, are making a bad situation worse, not better.<\/p>\n<p>And Tucker, they\u2019re being used as a form of warfare. And we know that we have countries like Iran, constantly demonized. Of course, as you well know, immediately after 9\/11 we have the list of countries to be targeted given to General Wesley Clark, the list that clearly existed before 9\/11 even occurred.<\/p>\n<p>Subsequently, every one of those countries, every one of them, endured a once in 1,000 year drought. Statistically, mathematically, that\u2019s impossible without climate intervention operations. And we have the leader of Iran on the floor of the UN on film, on the record stating NATO was cutting off their precipitation.<\/p>\n<p>We have Iranian top scientists recently saying NATO\u2019s been doing this for 40 years. Destabilize the food supply by destabilizing the rain and you destabilize the population.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Propaganda Term vs. The Science<\/h2>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0So you just said a bunch of amazing things. All of which I just want to say sound plausible to me, but let\u2019s just back up a little bit. So you\u2019re calling this geoengineering. The term \u201cchemtrails,\u201d you say is a propaganda term designed to discredit people who ask sincere questions about what the hell am I looking at?<\/p>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0Correct. Because if they Google that term, they\u2019ll get what you got. And that\u2019s what we try to avoid. If anybody is unfamiliar with the issue and they Google that term, that\u2019s the end of their search, most likely. So we try to point. Semantics matter in this case.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0Okay, so the first line of the Wikipedia entry points out something true, which is that when you look at these lines in the sky and you\u2019re told, \u201cWell, it\u2019s just condensation, it\u2019s water vapor,\u201d you know that maybe that\u2019s not the right explanation because water vapor dissipates and doesn\u2019t remain in the sky for like 20 minutes after the plane leaves. So that suggests bigger particles in the mist, that particulate matter in the mist is. Is that correct?<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Why Condensation Doesn\u2019t Explain What We\u2019re Seeing<\/h2>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0Exactly correct. If you see, for example, breath condensing, if you see some researchers in the Arctic and their breath is condensing because it\u2019s very cold, do they get a cloud starting to form over their head? If you have a vehicle that\u2019s exhaust is condensing in the morning, you have a freeway with giant clouds hanging over it from the condensation from the vehicles in some cold region. No, that\u2019s not how condensation behaves.<\/p>\n<p>And again, my journey into this whole battle of now 27 years. But when I built my off grid home in Northern California, middle of the wilderness, it was the cover of the world\u2019s largest renewable energy magazine. I have solar, wind and hydrogen, and I was losing on some days from what these aircraft were emitting, 50, 60, even 70% of my solar uptake from what these aircraft were emitting. I knew that could not be condensation.<\/p>\n<p>When I began to research, I was very surprised at the mountain of information on geoengineering, solar radiation management, and I looked for primary elements. I began to test my precipitation. I hoped I would not find these elements in my rain because I knew if I did, it would change the entire course of my life. I cannot look the other way.<\/p>\n<p>I came up with 7 parts per billion in my first rain test over the next 18 months because it took that long researching before I was willing to speak out on this issue. At the end of 18 months, I had single rain events with 3,450 parts per billion of aluminum in my rain.<\/p>\n<p>This is bioavailable freeform aluminum, which is toxic to all life forms, period. Primary element named in climate engineering patents. And we have the world\u2019s most recognized geoengineers specifically stating on film, on the record their goal of using aluminum in these programs because of its high reflectivity with no consideration of the consequences. That\u2019s how I got into this battle.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Stated Purpose: Climate Change Mitigation<\/h2>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0So if I understand what you\u2019re saying, this, what we\u2019re watching is an attempt, I assume, by governments and we\u2019ll get into who\u2019s doing this, to mitigate the effects of climate change, to reflect back rays from the sun so the earth doesn\u2019t warm at a pace that is dangerous to whatever they think is dangerous to. But this is a global warming mitigation effort, is that correct?<\/p>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0That is the stated purpose. We know this is\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0That is the stated purpose. So I think that\u2019s plausible because there is so much energy, commitment, sincere commitment in some cases, obviously fake commitment in others, but there and so much money behind this effort to mitigate global warming that that makes absolute sense. It is a religion.<\/p>\n<p>And you\u2019re saying that you were not originally aware of this or interested in it, but because you live off grid and you derive a lot of your electricity from solar and you clearly have an engineer brain, you were wondering like, why the hell is my solar not working correctly? And that got you into this process of learning about it.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Hidden Impact on Solar Energy<\/h2>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0Correct. And I have friends in the solar industry who off the record inform me that some of the commercial solar plants are producing half their design output and they won\u2019t talk about why because they don\u2019t want to lose subsidies. So again, this is a very known element in many fields.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, with the nation\u2019s weatherman, National Weather Service and NOAA, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, there is an illegal federal gag order on all agency operations. Why would our government feel the need to gag the weatherman?<\/p>\n<p>I had a NOAA scientist state to my face, quote, \u201cWe all know this is going on. We have no First Amendment protection. We don\u2019t know what to do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So the bottom line is let\u2019s all just pretend this isn\u2019t going on while it\u2019s virtually dismantling the planet\u2019s primary life support systems and ubiquitously contaminating everything everywhere. Not just talking about aluminum. We have in lab tests, and again, we\u2019ve done hundreds of lab tests. We did 500 working with the University of Minnesota, an internationally recognized agricultural institution.<\/p>\n<p>We have aluminum, barium, strontium, manganese, surfactants, polymer fibers, graphene, all of this coming down in our breathable air column.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s horrifying. People worry about the safety of their home now more than ever.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Who\u2019s Behind This?<\/h2>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0So who\u2019s doing this specifically?<\/p>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0Ultimately, all roads lead to those who print the money. But we know as far as the coordinating entities, certainly DOD, DARPA, and we have documents to prove the existence of these programs going back decades. Documents hundreds of pages long.<\/p>\n<p>We have an 800-page US Senate document from 1978 outlining the scope and scale of these programs, then specifically calling for intergovernmental cooperation even between, quote, \u201cotherwise adversarial nations.\u201d Because of the cross-border ramifications of these programs, you can\u2019t just geoengineer of your own country.<\/p>\n<p>Who\u2019s the biggest player? Obviously the United States of America. Because the size of our military, the US Military has three times more aerial tankers which are the primary aircraft used in these operations. Three times more than all other militaries in the world combined.<\/p>\n<p>And if I could back up to the whole condensation trail narrative again, which is perhaps one of the greatest lies ever perpetrated on populations all over the world. All military tankers and all commercial aircraft are equipped with what\u2019s known as a high bypass turbofan jet engine. That\u2019s a jet powered fan. 90% of the air that moves through that engine is not combusted.<\/p>\n<p>So by design, that engine is nearly incapable of producing any condensation material except under rare and extreme circumstances, which are diminishing by the day because of the warming that\u2019s occurring in the troposphere. So much warming.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve had two former military pilots that fly private aircraft. Important people have contacted us at GeoEngineeringWatch.org. In both cases they were off the coast of the Pacific Northwest and their aircraft were forced into emergency auto descents because the air outside that aircraft was 45 to 50 degrees above what it should have been. The air was not dense enough to carry those aircraft. These people are very, very alarmed but very afraid to speak out.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Reality of Climate Engineering<\/h2>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: That\u2019s an amazing fact. And it points up something that I think is indisputably true, which is that the climate is changing. Why it\u2019s changing is a whole separate set of debates. Of course, it\u2019s always changed.<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Climate engineering alone, though I could elaborate. I mean climate engineering alone. If and I\u2019m not negating the other sources of damage the planet, we\u2019ve been very poor stewards. But our point at geoengineeringwatch.org is how could anybody, from any perspective, and the environmental left is the most reluctant to face this issue. And we know why, Tucker.<\/p>\n<p>Because they don\u2019t want to lose their 501c3 nonprofits. Our attorneys at geogwatch.org spoke to attorneys through every major environmental group, Greenpeace, Sierra Club, WWF, all of them. They will not address this issue because they don\u2019t want to lose their nonprofit status. Is that not criminal hypocrisy?<\/p>\n<p>So we\u2019re stating in the case of trapping more heat than it deflects, causing far more harm than any perceived good, they\u2019re simply using it as a weapon under the guise of trying to mitigate the climate. So again, these operations are taking us from the frying pan into the fire, so to speak. So again, the greatest, most damaging form of human activity on the planet at this moment in time must be considered. These operations, climate engineering.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: Well, sure. I mean, geoengineering by its very nature is just like textbook hubris where you think you\u2019re God and you\u2019re in charge of the weather and the planet. No, you\u2019re just some lumpy, furry schmuck living out an incredibly short lifespan with no ability to make anything better because you\u2019re not God.<\/p>\n<p>Like, just the whole mindset is the mindset that gets us to nuclear war. So I\u2019m opposed to it on those grounds. But before we ascend too much higher, let\u2019s just come back down a bit and to the specifics. So where these aircraft seem to be everywhere in the United States, where are they taking off from? Where do these chemicals come from? The aluminum particulate, the rest that you just, magnesium, all the rest you described. Like what\u2019s kind of the chain that gets us to the stripes in the sky that we see?<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Aircraft Operations and Material Sources<\/h2>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Aircraft are taking off from countless locations. We\u2019re aware of a number of military bases where we know they\u2019re deploying from. We also have commercial aircraft with commercial markings that we know are being used in these operations. We know that because we have film footage of these aircraft, retrofit nozzles mounted on the wing pylons. We have up close photographs aiming to the exhaust jet stream to make this look like, quote, \u201ccondensation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We are not implicating commercial pilots or personnel, but we are communicating with them. Some commercial pilots that distribute our printed materials in pilot lunchrooms, for example, covertly, because they know their aircraft are being used. These are automated systems. They carry a small payload.<\/p>\n<p>You might remember about in the year 2000, the weight of the aircraft became a very big deal. How much luggage you carried on, how much weight you carried on, that appears to be when this was implemented. And we also know that the DoD has leased a significant number of commercial aircraft with commercial markings. Why would the DoD need or want that?<\/p>\n<p>And again, for the base material? Because we\u2019re talking about an extraordinary amount of material here. Based on our testing with the University of Minnesota, again, about 500 lab tests there. And extrapolating how much material was in the precipitation, projecting that globally, it appears something in the range of 40 to 60 million tons of nanoparticles are being dispersed annually in skies all over the globe.<\/p>\n<p>And the smaller the particle, the more toxic it is, the more harmful it is, the more bioavailable it is. And all the official air quality testing by design doesn\u2019t even look for these elements, let alone disclose them. So official air quality testing is PM 10, 10 microns, occasionally PM 2.5. Those are boulders compared to a nanoparticle. You can fit up to 100,000 nanoparticles across the width of a single human hair. They\u2019re inconceivably small.<\/p>\n<p>And the reason they use such small particles is because they stay aloft longer. And that\u2019s the goal. Keep the particles suspended in the atmosphere and there\u2019s more volumetric forcing, there\u2019s more surface area, the smaller the particle for a given amount of material.<\/p>\n<p>So it appears, and we have a published study on this, there is a peer reviewed published study that implicates coal fly ash as a base material for these operations because it contains many of the elements the climate engineers feel they need to disperse in our skies and it provides plausible deniability and it gets rid of the waste product that they\u2019re always trying to get rid of. There\u2019s other elements added. American Elements Corporation appears to be one of the primary suppliers for these operations.<\/p>\n<p>But again, the fact that this can go on in our skies and the mountain of data that exists on this and the continued pretending by the so called climate science community that this is ongoing is mind numbing and they won\u2019t be able to hide this for much longer.<\/p>\n<p>Tucker, I want to stress that these programs will be forced to light and if I could end with this when those pretend again, like the Wikipedia definition you read that this is some sort of an outlandish conspiracy. Let\u2019s go all the way back to 1962, 63 years ago, President Lyndon Johnson on film, on the record, ranting like a lunatic. It\u2019s the first 30 seconds of the weekly commercial free non political geoengineering watch national broadcast. We put on radios out of our pocket, stations out of our pocket across the country.<\/p>\n<p>But the first 30 seconds is this film footage of Johnson stating we had the power to control the world\u2019s cloud layer then, and quote, \u201che who controls the weather controls the world.\u201d How far have they come since?<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Historical Precedent and Government Denial<\/h2>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: Well, it\u2019s that kind of lunatic hubris that destroys the world. And Johnson was of course, whether he knew it or not, committed to helping destroy the world. So an evil man, I think, by any metric. So I\u2019m not necessarily surprised.<\/p>\n<p>What I am surprised by, however, is the fact that this program, the one you\u2019re describing, could have continued for over 60 years at this scale, you know, continental scale, global scale, and no one knows about it or talks about it. I mean, you know, we have a huge government, lots of elected officials, like, what do they say when you ask them?<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: This is a bit like the safe and effective narrative, isn\u2019t it? Let\u2019s all have the entire medical community pretending that injecting toxic heavy metals is safe and effective. And they still pretend to this day that that is the case when it doesn\u2019t take a large intellect or an educated individual to understand that\u2019s going to do harm. And yet that narrative still continues to this day.<\/p>\n<p>So again, this mass psychosis of denial is mind numbing. But you can\u2019t hide this for much longer. And we do have the climate science community now starting to speak out, starting to state how incredibly catastrophic these programs would be if they were implemented. They\u2019re not outright admitting it yet, but they\u2019re getting closer.<\/p>\n<p>And if we look at historical precedent, when did the US military start its modification in hurricanes? And there\u2019s some interesting things going on on the hurricane front this year, as in none of them. They\u2019re being deflected. And people that pretend that you can\u2019t manipulate a weather system of that size, that\u2019s absolute nonsense. The science completely disputes that.<\/p>\n<p>The US military commenced its hurricane modification operations in 1940 with Project Cirrus. And even the results of that initial small scale testing appeared to have so much effect on a cyclonic rotation that there were lawsuits pending from that, at which time they began to be more covert about their operations.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: And you said you\u2019ll notice that there aren\u2019t hurricanes in Florida. So the last few years, Florida, the west coast of Florida in particular, just been hammered, absolutely destroyed, you know, billions, tens of billions of dollars of damage done by hurricanes. No hurricanes this year. And you\u2019re saying that that\u2019s not an accident? Is that what you\u2019re saying?<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: I\u2019m saying that we know that technology exists to steer storms of that size. And let me make a comparison. You could have a 10 year old child divert the course of 100,000 ton freight train by pulling a lever, literally, and changing the tracks.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: That\u2019s correct.<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: And that\u2019s kind of small input, massive output that you can have with these cyclonic rotations when they have the ability to manipulate atmospheric pressure zones. This is undisputed patented science. So why would we think they\u2019re not using these type of operations?<\/p>\n<p>We have historical precedent. Project Popeye in Vietnam was so successful at controlling precipitation, this is historical record, that by 1976 they passed the ENMOD treaties forbidding weather manipulation for wartime purposes, but not over a country\u2019s own population. So if we look at the\u2026<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: Can I ask you to stop? I\u2019m sorry you\u2019re throwing, I\u2019m so ignorant on this topic, but I\u2019m suddenly very interested that I just want to make sure we don\u2019t miss anything. Operation Popeye, is that what you called it in Vietnam? Correct. What? I\u2019ve never even heard of that, I\u2019m embarrassed to say. What is it? What was it?<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Operation Popeye and Weather Modification Treaties<\/h2>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Very easily researched historical record. US military was so successful at controlling precipitation over Vietnam that the international community was very concerned about this, at least on the surface. And they passed environmental modification treaties in 1976, international treaties forbidding weather manipulation in wartime.<\/p>\n<p>So again, when people claim this is conspiracy, we don\u2019t have this kind of power and control. And they tried to muddy the climate engineering issue as being the localized publicized cloud seeding operations. Those are two completely different animals. And we see even some state legislators doing the same there. And we\u2019re trying to correct that at geoengineering because we\u2019re working with numerous state legislators now and have been.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s legislation pending in 36 states to ban geoengineering over their skies. Tennessee and Florida have already done so, but we\u2019re correcting them and giving them an accurate compass heading. That the localized publicized cloud seeding operations, the kind which they tried to implicate in the Texas floods that killed so many young Americans as being connected to a localized cloud seeding operation, which is virtually meaningless in comparison to climate engineering. It\u2019s an ant compared to an elephant.<\/p>\n<p>So intentionally, those that control media and are trying to control the narrative are trying to confuse these two issues. They are completely different. They\u2019re trying to mask or hide the elephant in the sky, which is climate engineering operations.<\/p>\n<p>So again, these programs are historical record. The Chinese government so successful at, for example, engineering snowstorms. Tucker, do you remember the blizzard in New Orleans this January? You remember that?<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: No, I don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Engineered Weather Events<\/h2>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: There was a blizzard in New Orleans. First time in recorded history there was a blizzard in Florida. Blizzards on the Gulf coast. That was January 21st, by the way. That\u2019s an interesting date to have that happen. These are demonstrations of what climate engineering can do.<\/p>\n<p>And the Chinese government has long since openly stated they were engineering snowstorms with endothermic reacting elements. These are patented elements that can literally transition what should be liquid precipitation event, a rain event, into snow. And these elements, if people understand, they have a first aid kit that sits on their shelf at room temperature for 20 years. You mix the cold pack together, you have ice instantly. That\u2019s an endothermic reacting element. That\u2019s being put into cloud moisture.<\/p>\n<p>And they were so successful in China, they caused billions of dollars of damage to Beijing. At which time they began to be less open about this. Everybody covered it. CNN, Popular Science, the Guardian, everyone. But if you bring that up here, suddenly you\u2019re a tinfoil hat wearing nutcase.<\/p>\n<p>On that same day, while it was blizzarding in New Orleans, in the polar regions, Alaska, Greenland, Iceland, Siberia, it was above freezing and raining. Do you remember the deep freeze in Texas, Tucker, a few years ago, five years ago, something like\u2026<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: Yes, very, very well. Yeah. It shut down a lot of their grid.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Climate Engineering Demonstration<\/h2>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Correct. So when it was below zero in Dallas, it was 33 degrees warmer at the North Pole. Think about that. And that\u2019s what we\u2019re not told.<\/p>\n<p>So when you have, let\u2019s look at the COP Climate conferences. You know what those are? The international climate conferences that we have. Those conferences are not to change business as usual. They are to force countries to actively or passively participate in climate engineering.<\/p>\n<p>So at some of those conferences, the Cancun conference, the Copenhagen conference, we had record low temperatures at the time of the conference, in spite of above normal temperatures in all surrounding areas. That\u2019s a demonstration of what climate engineering can do.<\/p>\n<p>So back to the hurricanes, the deflection of hurricanes so far this year. Is that a demonstration to other countries as well as to the power that the US military has to manipulate atmospheric pressure zones? And again, these are patented processes.<\/p>\n<p>For listeners that have heard of HAARP in Alaska, I\u2019m not sure if you ever heard of that, Tucker. HAARP?<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: No. Okay.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">HAARP and Atmospheric Manipulation<\/h2>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Images of that exist. There\u2019s no dispute as to its function or what the patents outline that it can do. Even Discovery Channel did a long episode which they\u2019ve seemed to be taken off the air now called \u201cControlling the Weather.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But that\u2019s a weapon of mass destruction. They play it off as a benign research facility. That\u2019s an ionosphere heater. It transmits 3.6 million watts of power to the electrically charged ionosphere, causing an electrical chain reaction. They\u2019re literally using the atmosphere as a physics lab, which we know they do, right Tucker?<\/p>\n<p>You know Project Starfish Prime and Project Fishbowl, if you\u2019ve heard of those. Those are the US military\u2019s experiments with detonating hydrogen bombs in the magnetosphere, which they thought could collapse the whole atmosphere. Did that stop them? No, it didn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>So installations like HAARP are used to control atmospheric pressure zones back to the hurricanes. If you can manipulate atmospheric pressure zones with these directional ionosphere heaters, you can literally manipulate their path. And is that we see going on? Is that a demonstration to others right now?<\/p>\n<p>Does the administration want to not have a big hurricane cataclysm since they\u2019ve gutted all the emergency protection everything? Do they not want to fight that battle too? Right now, we don\u2019t know. We can speculate on those things, but the fact that there is nothing that we can call natural at this point is indisputable.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: That\u2019s amazing.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Military\u2019s Climate Change Narrative<\/h2>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: A couple different threads. One, the US military in this country, our military runs propaganda operations against our population. And they do it on social media. And of course they do it through the conventional media as well. And they have for a long time, but it\u2019s certainly gotten more aggressive.<\/p>\n<p>So that\u2019s illegal, it\u2019s immoral. Anyone who participates in that should be in prison. But it happens and unfortunately we haven\u2019t been able to stop it. So we know that they lie to our population about a whole bunch of things, including what they\u2019re doing.<\/p>\n<p>Two, we know that in the past 15 years you see these kind of fat, effeminate generals all of a sudden talking about how climate change is like one of the main national security threats and like the first US military to fight climate change. There\u2019s been a lot of that and it\u2019s very confusing to people like me who think of the purpose of the US Military is shooting people trying to invade our country.<\/p>\n<p>What does climate change have to do with national security? But they\u2019ve been saying that a lot and your description suddenly makes it all make sense. A lot of what they do is trying to mitigate or saying they\u2019re trying to mitigate the effects of climate change. I mean, I guess this is more out in the open than I realized until right now.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Masking Effects, Not Mitigating Them<\/h2>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: I would call it masking the effects because they\u2019re certainly not mitigating it. Everything they do, every short term toxic surface cooldown comes at the cost of a worsened overall warming and damage to the planet. And you\u2019re completely correct, Tucker, completely correct.<\/p>\n<p>In the US Military Top brass statements on the record that they consider the collapsing climate system the greatest national security threat of all. So when you have so many military bases at sea level, some of which are already being inundated, that\u2019s a part of the problem.<\/p>\n<p>But you have other elements. For example, and this is from a perspective of the existence of the human race and how much longer we\u2019re going to be here. The ozone layer is near functional collapse right now. It\u2019s not the hairspray cans. Single greatest damaging factor is climate engineering, period. Not just the oxidizing particles that are being dispersed in our atmosphere, but the manipulation of those particles with extremely powerful frequency transmissions.<\/p>\n<p>So we know that of all the towers being put up everywhere for, quote, \u201ccommunications,\u201d fake trees, and all the different forms they come in, we know that many of those installations are being supplied with 10 times more power than they need. That\u2019s part of my background in the electrical field. I know people that work on these towers. 10 times more power than they need for communications.<\/p>\n<p>Why do they need that much more power? 1,000% more power. And we know these facilities are being used to manipulate the electrically conductive atmospheric particulates. There\u2019s a repelling effect caused from these transmissions because we can see the effect on water vapor loops.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Weather Manipulation in Real Time<\/h2>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: So if we look at the flash flooding in Texas as an example that killed so many young Americans, we captured in real time, and I\u2019m still surprised we have access to these data loops because we have access to the transmissions from the NEXRAD network that are used to manipulate weather systems.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div><span class=\"ctaText\">ALSO READ:<\/span>\u00a0\u00a0<span class=\"postTitle\">Transcript: Scott Horton\u2019s Interview on The Tucker Carlson Show<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>And what happened in that case was because of the repelling effect of those transmissions. And picture this scenario when there was that convective cell over that location and transmitters energized all around that cell. And we recorded that, it\u2019s posted online, that in effect held that cell in one place. It precipitated out in one location. We can speculate about agendas and objectives. We can\u2019t know that. But the fact that that storm was manipulated is beyond dispute.<\/p>\n<p>Same with Hurricane Helene. We recorded that in real time. The frequency transmissions, manipulating that storm and steering into place, it\u2019s indisputable. These are patented technologies.<\/p>\n<p>Hurricane Harvey, we recorded that. How did meteorologists know seven days in advance that Hurricane Harvey was going to go where it went and sit there for three days? How could they possibly know that? Frequency transmissions held it there. We recorded that in real time.<\/p>\n<p>And again, these people are reading scripts, Tucker. They\u2019re literally reading scripts passed down to them by Raytheon, private defense contractors. Raytheon and Lockheed Martin that are neck deep in climate engineering, everything, patents, operations, everything. And they literally supply and provide the quote \u201cforecast,\u201d which is the scheduled weather to the National Weather Service in NOAA, our nation\u2019s weathermen that passes all the way down.<\/p>\n<p>And local meteorologists simply, they know how long their leash is. They\u2019re protecting their paychecks and pensions. They toe the line as well. Just like the \u201csafe and effective\u201d in the medical community. Everybody just toes the line because they don\u2019t want to disrupt their personal paradigm. These storms are being steered and manipulated, period. That\u2019s beyond dispute.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The COVID Parallel<\/h2>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: I\u2019m glad you keep bringing up the COVID vax because it would be hard for my middle aged brain to accept a lie at this scale. How could you do that? How could you hide something this big, this profound from an entire population?<\/p>\n<p>Except I just saw it five years ago with the COVID vaccine, which was a total lie. And now there\u2019s no dispute about the fact that they lied about it. But no one was ever punished and most people believed it. So I know for a fact what you\u2019re describing is possible.<\/p>\n<p>Can you actually, before I forget, let me ask. So who pays you to do this? This sounds, this is quite an operation that you\u2019re running. You\u2019re clearly, I guess, not in it for the money. This is a bigger movement than I was aware until right now. So you\u2019re running lab tests on rainwater, you\u2019re researching this actively? Is this a volunteer effort? How and why are you doing this?<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A Personal Mission<\/h2>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Because I can find no greater point for existing. How can I possibly look the other way? I was restoring habitat in Northern California, east side of Lake Shasta. Habitat that was decimated by irresponsible logging practices. I wanted to do that the rest of my life. I wanted to plant trees and watch them grow the rest of my life.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: Good for you. God bless you.<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: I mean there\u2019s no greater solitude than what I was doing. But how was I to continue doing that, knowing what I knew when the solar output reduction happened that I mentioned earlier. And I began to test rain, knowing the implications of toxic rain, rain that contained aluminum by the way.<\/p>\n<p>Aluminum in regard to not just killing soil microbiome, but tree root systems. This is peer reviewed study. Bioavailable aluminum, they shut down nutrient uptake so the trees dry. A slow protracted death. And all official agencies blame beetles. \u201cThe trees are dying because of the beetles.\u201d That\u2019s all we hear. And the bottom line is beetles are a symptom of a sick, dead, dying tree.<\/p>\n<p>My father was an arborist. I know trees. I love trees. When I was in kindergarten, they had to come out after recess and drag me out of the tree because I didn\u2019t want to come down.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah, I feel the same way.<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: I mean, with no trees, no people.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: That\u2019s simple, right? That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: So how was I to continue doing that? I can\u2019t. I can\u2019t look myself in the mirror. I can\u2019t look my children in the eyes. How could I not do this?<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Collapse of Pollinators<\/h2>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: And if we carry this further, Tucker, you know the bees are collapsing, right?<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: Oh, of course. I know very well.<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: So we know this year we were told 70% collapse this year. That\u2019s staggering. That\u2019s incredibly alarming. But what\u2019s the real figure? The real figure is that\u2019s a 70% collapse of the 20% that was remaining. We\u2019re down to single digit percentages of pollinators left right now.<\/p>\n<p>We know insect populations have declined. This is terrestrial and aquatic insect. 80 to 90% globally.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: Very noticeable. And if you don\u2019t believe it, remember the windshield on your parents station wagon as a child in the summertime was covered in bugs. And that is not. I drive in a rural area every night and no bugs. That\u2019s real.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Insect Apocalypse and Plankton Collapse<\/h2>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0No bugs? No bugs, no people. Also, we publicized this in 2012 with my work with former government scientists that could speak out because they\u2019re retired, and the science community tried to marginalize us. Now they\u2019ve had to admit to it.<\/p>\n<p>If your listeners search \u201cinsect apocalypse,\u201d they\u2019ll find the alarms going off all over the globe because this translates to plankton as well. No plankton, no people. We have peer science study now from the Atlantic. Plankton population is down 90%. Other oceans not far behind. That\u2019s the greatest oxygen producer on the planet. That is the base of life on Earth: plankton.<\/p>\n<p>We are on the human race right now, Tucker. I\u2019ve used this example before, but it sends a message. It\u2019s very accurate. It\u2019s like occupants of a car parked on the railroad track. The train is seconds from impact, lights flashing, horn blaring, and they\u2019re trying to decide what station to put the radio on.<\/p>\n<p>No matter what other issue we\u2019re facing, and I would argue power structure maneuvering right now from conflict zones, carnage zones, many other factors are directly related to the unfolding and accelerating biosphere collapse, which climate engineering is fueling, not mitigating. It\u2019s fueling it.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Climate Engineering as a Covert Weapon<\/h2>\n<p>And they will not let go of this covert weapon of control. It is the crown jewel weapon with which they can have been and are bringing populations to their knees, including our own, without those populations ever even knowing they\u2019re under assault. They\u2019re not going to let go of this weapon.<\/p>\n<p>In regard to our military brothers and sisters that are participating in this, because many ask that question, why would they? But the bottom line is, and I\u2019ve heard you say, I just heard you cite this, and I thank you for doing so, that our military brothers and sisters took an oath to protect their populations. I heard this on a former presentation you just made. To protect their populations from all threats, foreign and domestic.<\/p>\n<p>So they\u2019re being compartmentalized and they\u2019re being told that these programs are some benevolent, necessary operation. Just like the pilots in Vietnam, I\u2019m sure, were told when they were spraying Agent Orange on everybody. They\u2019re not told, \u201cThis is going to kill your comrade on the ground.\u201d Of course they\u2019re not told that. So here we are.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0And I think in a lot of cases, people don\u2019t know. They don\u2019t think it through. I mean, again, they\u2019re so high on this false feeling of omnipotence, like, \u201cWe\u2019re in charge. We have the technology, we can make things better.\u201d I mean, people delude themselves. I think good people, I know good people, delude themselves into committing evil because they think they have this power that they actually don\u2019t have.<\/p>\n<p>So, okay, the bees start disappearing. The bats, as you know, of course, insects, plankton. These are all phenomena that most people are not going to notice because they live in cities. They\u2019re not in touch with bees, okay, or insects. But the trees dying is very obvious. I mean, these are plants that live for 100 years. All of a sudden, they\u2019re dying. The fir trees are dying. Give us a sense of American forestry right now. Like, how are the trees in this country?<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Collapse of Global Tree Cover<\/h2>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0I think the more important statistic might be globally at this point, because we have that statistic. Tree cover has declined since pre-civilization baselines 66%. 66% gone. The remaining one third is dead and dying trees.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve changed atmospheric chemistry so much, forests do not smell like forests anymore. Anybody who knows trees and knows what forests once smelled like\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0\u2014knows that that scent is gone. Why is it gone? Because of the now intense UV radiation that\u2019s bombarding the planet. And we\u2019re getting, by the way, UVC on the surface. I mentioned the ozone layer collapse. Climate engineering, single greatest factor. The climate science community acknowledges this, by the way, Tucker. They acknowledge openly, \u201cIf we geoengineer\u201d\u2014if we haven\u2019t been for 80 years already. By the way, these programs were immediately deployed after World War II. That\u2019s how long they\u2019ve been ongoing.<\/p>\n<p>But the science community openly admits that if we were to geoengineer, it would destroy the ozone layer. We had a former NASA contract engineer working directly for geoengineeringwatch.org with state-of-the-art metering equipment into five figures we supplied. And again, we do this out of pocket. We don\u2019t monetize anything. Our film\u00a0<em>The Dimming<\/em>, the groundbreaking documentary\u00a0<em>The Dimming<\/em>, which is the standard on this issue, 26 million views, non-monetized, posted for free the day it was done. I\u2019m in this for the cause. If we don\u2019t win this battle, nothing else matters.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Trees Shutting Down Their Respiratory Systems<\/h2>\n<p>And back to the trees that don\u2019t\u2014the forest that doesn\u2019t smell like forest anymore\u2014because the trees are shutting their stomata. That\u2019s the respiratory port on the trees, allowing them to breathe, to feed on carbon, to release oxygen. They are not respirating. They\u2019re dying a slow, protracted death. That\u2019s the second greatest oxygen producer on the planet.<\/p>\n<p>Again, from every conceivable direction, climate engineering is pounding the nails into our collective coffins. But they will not let go of this covert weapon of control. And for those that say they wouldn\u2019t do this to themselves, again, they already have. We detonated 2,400 nuclear bombs on the planet. How many people know that?<\/p>\n<p>The Nevada detonations, which they did in total secrecy, right? We know now from peer-reviewed study the downwind fallout from the Nevada nuclear bomb detonations killed no less than 700,000 Americans. That\u2019s peer-reviewed study. How many people know that? So again, they don\u2019t care about the consequences of what they do.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Historical Biological Testing on Americans<\/h2>\n<p>We know, as far as biological testing, according to the Washington Post, as of 1977, US military had conducted no less than 239 open-air biological tests on innocent, unknowing civilians.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0Oh, come on now. Biological warfare tests on Americans?<\/p>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, I know. You must know that. Look it up. I mean, this is historical record, again covered by mainstream media.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0We had a revolution over a tea tax, dude. I feel like this, you can\u2019t put up with this.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0I don\u2019t. I encourage all of your listeners to look up every single thing I state that is very easy to find, that statistic. Washington Post first published that in 1977. I hope it\u2019s clear from the statistics I\u2019m citing, I\u2019m not shooting from the hip.<\/p>\n<p>So again, this is business as usual. And why people can\u2019t face that is perplexing. And let\u2019s look at Zbigniew Brzezinski. I know you know who he is, former US Presidential advisor, going all the way back to Johnson. What did he state in the record? Your listeners can look this up very easily as well. He stated, \u201cWith today\u2019s technology, it\u2019s far easier to kill a million people than to control them.\u201d You think these people are here to help? Really?<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Connection to COVID-19<\/h2>\n<p>So again, I want to stress that the amount of layers with this issue, and there\u2019s many legitimate causes or concerns at this point in time, if we don\u2019t deal with what\u2019s happening in our skies, we\u2019re not going to be here long.<\/p>\n<p>And let\u2019s look at COVID for a moment. We know that, for one, the world\u2019s second most recognized climate engineer, Dr. Ken Caldera, former DoD scientist, we own an audio of him at geoengineeringwatch.org in his words stating what he did for the DoD was to design methods of spraying pathogens into clouds to infect the populations below.<\/p>\n<p>We know in the outbreak of COVID-19, at one point, 85 countries were infected in three days. That\u2019s indicative of an airborne dispersion. We know from Italian researchers they found COVID-19 attached to airborne particulates. Do not all these dots connect? They certainly would appear so.<\/p>\n<p>We know from our precipitation testing we have polymer fibers and graphene in our rain. Graphene is like a vascular machete. I mean, it\u2019s listed in geoengineering patents for certain purposes. Again, they don\u2019t care about the consequences. But those two elements also, Tucker, are used militarily as biological carrier platforms to carry a pathogen from the clouds to the ground to infect the population below.<\/p>\n<p>Why is that in our rain right now? Could they, at any point of their choosing, put something much more lethal into the precipitation and level the playing field? Certainly they could.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Meetings with Elected Officials<\/h2>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0This is also shocking. Have you spoken to elected officials about this? Members of Congress?<\/p>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0Many, and I continue to. And many know. I\u2019ve had private meetings with Gavin Newsom at the California State Capitol with his top eight. And not that that individual would ever do anything for the common good. He wouldn\u2019t. He\u2019s there to serve those who have him on the end of their strings. No response there. I have on my desk\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0I\u2019m sorry to interrupt. So you actually said this or a version of this to Gavin Newsom, the Governor of California?<\/p>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes. And in fact, what I conveyed to Newsom also, if these programs were allowed to continue, because I was focused more on the state of California and the impact here, that the drought catastrophes in California would be catastrophic.<\/p>\n<p>I supplied data which he didn\u2019t try to dispute because I\u2019ve had meetings with California Energy Commission scientists as well, air quality scientists. California\u2019s been concerned about, of course, the lack of precipitation which affects our hydropower production, also affects Hoover Dam, Canyon Dam.<\/p>\n<p>But if your listeners looked at presentations I gave well over a decade ago, \u201cEngineered Drought Catastrophe Target California,\u201d everything I said in those presentations back then is more relevant now than ever. Presented that data to Newsom and the drought has continued, which they\u2019re not even disclosing now.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">California\u2019s Hidden Drought Crisis<\/h2>\n<p>Even in Northern California right now, they show zero drought. That\u2019s a blatant, glaring statistical falsification. It has never been drier here in regard to soil moisture and fire fuel moisture. They\u2019re lying about everything. They\u2019re lying about the UV readings on the surface. Blatant, glaring lies.<\/p>\n<p>They meter\u2014we know about every single aspect of this equation. They\u2019re disposing and metering only down to 300 nanometers in regard to the UV spectrum. That\u2019s half of the UVB spectrum. No UVC is even metered for, let alone disclosed. Same as the air quality particulates. PM10 is\u2014look for nothing below that.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve had California State air quality officials in a closed-door meeting, five of them, tell me to my face the system is rigged. \u201cWe\u2019re testing for combustion particulates only. The rest goes out the window.\u201d Whole system by design to not show the immensity of damage being done.<\/p>\n<p>So back to Newsom and those officials, no response. Yes, they know. The Palisades fire, I\u2019m sure that\u2019s fresh in your mind, right?<\/p>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0Very.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Palisades Fire and Weather Manipulation<\/h2>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0The ability for the climate engineers to shut off precipitation is far greater even than their ability to augment it. They can shut down rain as long as they want, as we know from the Middle Eastern countries, as I just stated on Iran.<\/p>\n<p>So in the case of the Palisades, no rain for eight months. That\u2019s not an accident. These particulates are incendiaries. Aluminum nanoparticles are such an effective incendiary, they\u2019re used in military demolitions. Thermite. That incendiary dust coats the forest floor, coats foliage. And when that builds up over time, that makes everything more volatile as well.<\/p>\n<p>I spoke about atmospheric pressure zones which they can and are manipulating. And in doing so, they can manipulate surface wind flows, creating extreme zonal wind flow patterns, same as they did in Lahaina. Same thing. Extremely anomalous low pressure zones, one to the north, which was an engineered high pressure zone to the south, Hurricane Dora. Between those two you create a bellows effect, a blowtorch effect, whatever the source of ignition.<\/p>\n<p>And many online speculate about that in very fringe ideas of what might cause the ignition. Again, that\u2019s irrelevant. What\u2019s setting the template for these fires to burn with such ferocity? And that is definitely climate engineering.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Wildfires as a Military Weapon<\/h2>\n<p>And I\u2019ll leave it with this. We found a 140-page US military document which we posted titled \u201cWildfires as a Military Weapon.\u201d Within that document, 17 sites were named in the US as study zones. LA was one. And it described exactly the type of pre-preparation that we see happening in all these locations. Lahaina was declared a flash drought zone a week prior to that incineration.<\/p>\n<p>So we can speculate on the agendas and objectives being carried out. The fact that climate engineering is inseparable from these equations is absolutely indisputable. That document, by the way, also posted at geoengineeringwatch.org with the important sections highlighted. Shocking data.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Legislative Efforts and Political Response<\/h2>\n<p><strong>TUCKER CARLSON:<\/strong>\u00a0Has there been any attempt to push back legislatively? Like, has the Congress ever taken this up?<\/p>\n<p><strong>DANE WIGINGTON:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes. Again, we have 36 states with legislation in some process. Two states have already passed it. I\u2019m communicating with an aide to DeSantis. I\u2019ve had an hour conference call with Ladapo there on the issue. We have some very rational people involved. He is, he very much is. His whole team was on the call.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve had Marjorie Taylor Greene just address this. That was publicized. Well, we tried to reach Mrs. Greene before this to try to give some compass heading because if you fly into this blind, you can do more harm than good. And one thing we encouraged, unfortunately Marjorie didn\u2019t get this message, we hope she does at some point: don\u2019t open the entire climate scenario and mix it with this issue. And that\u2019s what she did.<\/p>\n<p>We want to keep the focus on climate engineering. And when there\u2019s a denial of the other sources of damage to the planet, that tends to immediately alienate half the people we need in this battle.<\/p>\n<p>So what we would try to encourage and encourage other legislators to do is, if the subject of the climate comes up, how can we have any legitimate discussion of climate, anything from any perspective, without first and foremost addressing this elephant in the equation? And that narrative is much more productive at building bridges instead of burning them.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Environmental Impact of Climate Engineering<\/h2>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: I mean, I knew the climate was changing, of course, because I pay attention to nature. But you\u2019ve just single-handedly convinced me that a lot of this is driven by human activity. Just not your Suburban and your hairspray. It\u2019s driven by the US Military.<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Well, it\u2019s both. I want to stress again, we are not denying that, statistically, we are putting about 100 million tons of carbon into the air a day. 26 million tons of coal, 100 million barrels of hydrocarbon. We\u2019re cutting down the forest, we\u2019re paving the planet, we\u2019re poisoning the oceans. All of these things have an effect.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019re acknowledging that, but we\u2019re saying when we have intentional intervention which has prevented the planet from responding to the damage done. If it weren\u2019t for toxic rain, Tucker, the forests may have tried to uptake more of that carbon and to keep things more in balance, but they can\u2019t. The trees can\u2019t. Their root systems are being poisoned. Soil microbiome being poisoned, ozone layer being destroyed.<\/p>\n<p>These programs are literally disabling the planet\u2019s counterbalancing life support systems. So we will never know now how much better position we would have been in had climate engineering, AKA weather warfare, let\u2019s call it what it is, it\u2019s weather warfare. Had these programs never been deployed, we will now never know how much better a position we might have been in.<\/p>\n<p>But those in power, again, do not care about the consequences of their actions, even to themselves. And we know that from psychoanalysis. I\u2019ve looked at this from a psychoanalysis standpoint and it specifically cites the kind of personality disorders that exist with those in power have a common thread.<\/p>\n<p>And that common thread is this: a near total lack of comprehension as to the consequences of their actions, even to themselves. That\u2019s a power addict, and I know you more than anybody in the world. Does an addict care? We\u2019re dealing with a headless, heartless, soulless cancer at this point. And does an addict care? The next fix may kill them. They don\u2019t care.<\/p>\n<p>And at this point, it\u2019s a runaway train. So for many people that walk away saying they would never do this to themselves, they already have. We know this from the nuclear scenario I outlined. And if I could tie one more dot together, forgive me, but this is important because it\u2019s an existential threat.<\/p>\n<p>I outlined that climate engineering is decimating the planet\u2019s primary protective life support system, starting with the ozone layer. Now we\u2019re much more susceptible to a CME, a coronal mass ejection solar flare. If we have an event like the Carrington event in the 1800s that would shut down grid power around the world. Now we have nuclear plants that can\u2019t cool themselves. Now we have Fukushima times 100 or 200, game over again. Directly connected to climate engineering.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Effects on Animal Populations<\/h2>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: What is the effect on animal populations? You mentioned bees, plankton and other insects. But what about mammals? Do you notice any effect?<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Yes, yes. We have peer-reviewed study of whales that have extraordinary amounts of aluminum in their tissue. Where\u2019s that coming from? This is bioavailable aluminum. And you might hear the attempt to debunk this is to say, well, aluminum\u2019s a very common element, which it is. It\u2019s the third most abundant in the earth strata, but it does not exist in free form naturally, period.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: Yes, that\u2019s correct.<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Always bonded to other elements. So that\u2019s the part that they leave out. So when we have even whales absorbing this same material, having an obvious effect in regard to overall global animal populations. Wildlife populations down conservatively about 75% in the last 40 years alone. That\u2019s 75% of an already depleted population.<\/p>\n<p>The giant herds of caribou, you\u2019ve seen films of that, right, Tucker? A million strong. Some of those herds were a million. They\u2019re down to 5,000 or less from a million. Virtual crash.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Chemical Ice Nucleation and Extreme Weather<\/h2>\n<p>And we have some extraordinary images from what chemical ice nucleation can do. It is profound when you have an endothermic reaction. We know what an exothermic reaction is. You have this massive energy release, the splitting of an atom being the epitome of that. But an endothermic reaction is profound in many ways as well.<\/p>\n<p>So we have images of, for example, hundreds of waterfowl frozen solid to the surface of a lake. How does that happen? Tucker, you\u2019ve seen the massive baseball and softball-sized hail falling everywhere, right? So much so that insurance companies are canceling any hail coverage now because it\u2019s increased so profoundly. That\u2019s chemical ice nucleation, the extreme form.<\/p>\n<p>If your listeners searched \u201cLake Michigan ice balls,\u201d they can see the shores of Lake Michigan coated with 75-pound perfectly spherical ice balls. They don\u2019t fall that big from the sky. They form that way in the ocean because they\u2019re chemically nucleating over the Great Lakes constantly. That\u2019s how they pile up these massive amounts of snow in Erie and Buffalo and they make sensationalized headlines.<\/p>\n<p>You can literally throw a rock to no snow. But they only show the 4 feet or 5 feet of snow in Erie and in Buffalo and sensationalized \u201clook how much snow, snow, snow there is\u201d while we\u2019re 80 degrees at the top of the Sierras in the middle of winter in California. They don\u2019t publicize that.<\/p>\n<p>Do you remember, Tucker, when Boston had the record lows? 2014, I think Boston had record lows, and they really sensationalized snow. What didn\u2019t they tell us? Middle of winter, while Boston was buried in snow, it was literally no snow 14,000 feet up in the Sierras. They never told us about that, did they?<\/p>\n<p>So, again, there\u2019s a perception aspect in this, too. Keeping business as usual until the last possible moment, until the moment of impact. Being able to retain their power in this way while using weather as a weapon.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Global Crop Collapse<\/h2>\n<p>But the crops are shutting down as well. Globally, we have crop collapse happening everywhere. Same scenario. They\u2019re shutting their stomata. They\u2019re not feeding, they\u2019re not absorbing carbon, they\u2019re not releasing oxygen. So, again, this is a ubiquitous contamination.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: I think the first step is to let people know the facts that you just laid out and to have a public debate about it. It always begins with words. Anything good? So could you just end by telling us? For people who have made it to this portion of the interview and want to know more, can you speak slowly and direct them to where they can get more information on this?<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Where to Find More Information<\/h2>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: GeoEngineeringWatch.org strives to be a data repository on this issue. And the only way we can move this fight forward is to share credible data from a credible source. And we strive to be that source. I have one goal, one mission. I live for the day when what\u2019s happening in our skies is fully exposed and halted, which, Tucker, I would argue we can only do from the inside out.<\/p>\n<p>The legislation is good because it puts it on the radar, but it\u2019s symbolic. They\u2019re not going to stop DoD operations from that. Only by pushing this issue to the full light of day can we cause a shock wave around the world so that populations and countries all over the world understand what their governments have either actively or passively done to them without their knowledge or consent.<\/p>\n<p>And in doing so, our military brothers and sisters would hopefully awaken to what they\u2019re doing to their countrymen and one would hope would stand down. I know we have the Milgram experiments as an example of most human beings. If they\u2019re being told by someone they perceive an authority will carry out almost any form of atrocity, and we need to get past that.<\/p>\n<p>But if we can fully expose this, the fur will fly. I would argue we would alter the equation and drag many other issues with it, issues like 9\/11 or the \u201csafe and effective,\u201d because you can\u2019t hide what\u2019s happening in our sky. There\u2019s many issues that people can and try to put in the rearview mirror. You can\u2019t do that with this. It\u2019s getting worse by the day. The damage done is getting worse by the day.<\/p>\n<p>But if we share credible data from a credible source, that\u2019s much more effective at waking people up than running out in the street pointing at the sky and ranting. If they can look at satellite images which we capture the moment we see them on the NASA satellite feed, we capture them because they try to scrub them off.<\/p>\n<p>We have satellite images that are beyond shocking, that you don\u2019t even know anything about meteorology to know something very radical and very wrong is going on. And we put that on our printed materials which we distribute to all legislators and we supply them for activists and populations. There\u2019s about a half million of our 20-page booklets in circulation right now.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019re trying desperately to give visuals which are a much better key to the door. We\u2019re trying desperately again with legislators to not open up the whole climate condition front or climate change front. Stick to this issue. Stick to this. And we can\u2019t have a discussion about climate unless or until we deal with this. First we take this out of the equation, then we can assess where we\u2019re at.<\/p>\n<p>So again, by knowing how to play chess, by knowing the chessboard, we need to play effectively and efficiently. And if we can do that and start spot fires of awareness, ask others to do the same, we will put enough holes in the dam that those in power can\u2019t plug the leaks. And we will push this issue to the full light of day. And if we can do that, we will alter the equation. And again, time is not on our side.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Ubiquitous Contamination<\/h2>\n<p>We can avoid a toxic medical concoction injection. We can avoid a lot of things. We have to breathe. Every breath we take is filled with these nanoparticles. In fact, we have peer-review study to prove that as well. And we have, in the case of the nanoplastics, the climate science community is now starting to admit to that. They\u2019re showing up in human brains, lungs, placenta, everything, every human organ.<\/p>\n<p>And again, we know that these particles are not just a result of plastic decomposition in the environment. Because our testing with RPI in New York conclusively proved that the particles we found were manufactured. That means, and they can tell with their spectroscopy spectrum, they know that.<\/p>\n<p>So bottom line is we\u2019re dealing with the ubiquitous contamination of the planet and if we can\u2019t breathe without inhaling that, the ramifications are beyond grave. That\u2019s a fight for life right here, right now.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah. Are you spraying chemicals into the air without telling me? Using my tax dollars? Simple question that I plan to start asking people in leadership positions. So I don\u2019t know how I made it this long without knowing all of this, but I\u2019m grateful for this conversation and I hope it sparks a national conversation and some outrage. Dane, thank you very much.<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Thank you, Tucker. Thank you so much for your voice. Thank you to your team. The importance of you and your team at this critical moment in human history cannot be overstated. And we at Geoengineering Watch and our platforms, which are much smaller than yours, we quarter million followers is all, nothing compared to yours. But everybody in our ranks is 1000% behind you, brother.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: Well, that\u2019s so nice.<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Thank you.<\/p>\n<p>TUCKER CARLSON: We want to be helpful. I appreciate it.<\/p>\n<p>DANE WIGINGTON: Thank you, Tucker.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>____<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/singjupost.com\/transcript-dane-wigingtons-interview-on-tucker-carlson-show\/\">https:\/\/singjupost.com\/transcript-dane-wigingtons-interview-on-tucker-carlson-show\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Transcript: Dane Wigington\u2019s Interview on Tucker Carlson Show Here is the full transcript of American activist and commentator Dane Wigington\u2019s interview on Tucker Carlson Show titled \u201cUS Government Admits Chemtrails Are Real (It\u2019s Worse Than You Think)\u201d, November 10, 2025.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40860","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40860","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=40860"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40860\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=40860"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=40860"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=40860"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}