{"id":36963,"date":"2025-10-12T17:26:01","date_gmt":"2025-10-12T21:26:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/?p=36963"},"modified":"2025-10-12T17:26:01","modified_gmt":"2025-10-12T21:26:01","slug":"ray-dalio-warns-were-heading-into-very-very-dark-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/?p=36963","title":{"rendered":"<h1>Ray Dalio warns \u2018we\u2019re heading into very, very dark times\u2019<\/h1>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--more--><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-36964\" src=\"http:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-12-at-5.23.24-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"523\" height=\"711\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-12-at-5.23.24-PM.png 523w, https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-12-at-5.23.24-PM-221x300.png 221w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 523px) 100vw, 523px\" \/><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Nick Lichtenberg<\/p>\n<p>Legendary billionaire investor Ray Dalio has issued a stark warning about the future of the United States and the United Kingdom, stating he is not optimistic about either nation\u2019s trajectory and believes \u201cwe\u2019re heading into very, very dark times.\u201d Drawing on his own proprietary study of 500 years of history, the founder of the world\u2019s largest hedge fund, Bridgewater Associates, points to a predictable 80-year cycle that suggests an era of significant global and internal strife is upon us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1090901\">Dalio\u2019s framework is built on five major forces that drive history in cycles: a money and debt force, internal conflict, geopolitical conflict, acts of nature, and human inventiveness, particularly technology. He argues that both the U.S. and the U.K. are exhibiting clear symptoms of a cycle nearing a dangerous phase.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1090901\">\u201cThe U.K. has a financial problem, the government has a debt problem,\u201d Dalio explained in an appearance on the \u201c<a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=49RT6SQ8n0Y\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:Diary of a CEO;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" data-rapid_p=\"7\" data-v9y=\"1\">Diary of a CEO<\/a>\u201d podcast, noting that when debts rise relative to income, it squeezes the economy. This financial strain is connected to the second force: intense internal conflict. With large wealth and opportunity gaps, societies are experiencing deep divisions between the left and right, leading to a loss of trust in the system. Dalio believes the U.K. also lacks the culture of inventiveness and the robust capital markets seen in the U.S., further hindering its prospects.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wrapper yf-eondll\" data-testid=\"inarticle-ad\"><\/div>\n<p class=\"yf-1090901\">While that\u2019s arguable, what is not is that\u00a0<a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/money\/2022\/10\/25\/1130633196\/britains-productivity-problem#:~:text=Diane%20Coyle%2C%20a%20professor%20of,much%20worse%20slowdown%20than%20anybody.%22\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:productivity in the U.K. has been remarkably flat;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" data-rapid_p=\"8\" data-v9y=\"1\">productivity in the U.K. has been remarkably flat<\/a>\u00a0for roughly 20 years. Diane Coyle, a professor of public policy at the University of Cambridge, talked to\u00a0<a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/money\/2022\/10\/25\/1130633196\/britains-productivity-problem#:~:text=Diane%20Coyle%2C%20a%20professor%20of,much%20worse%20slowdown%20than%20anybody.%22\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:NPR\u2019s Planet Money;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" data-rapid_p=\"9\" data-v9y=\"1\">NPR\u2019s Planet Money<\/a>\u00a0about it in 2022. \u201cWe\u2019ve had flatlining productivity since the mid-2000s,\u201d she said. \u201cAnd while compared to other countries, they\u2019ve had slowdowns, we\u2019ve just had a much worse slowdown than anybody.\u201d The\u00a0<a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.lse.ac.uk\/politicsandpolicy\/britain-is-falling-behind-the-us-and-productivity-is-largely-to-blame\/#:~:text=The%20productivity%20puzzle%20that%20stalled,was%20also%20a%20contributing%20factor.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:London School of Economics revisited;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" data-rapid_p=\"10\" data-v9y=\"1\">London School of Economics revisited<\/a>\u00a0the subject earlier this year, calling it a \u201cproductivity puzzle\u201d while concluding that the U.K. had \u201chad the\u00a0<a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/cep.lse.ac.uk\/_NEW\/PUBLICATIONS\/abstract.asp?index=10566\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:worst contraction;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" data-rapid_p=\"11\" data-v9y=\"1\">worst contraction<\/a>\u00a0in labour productivity after the financial crisis\u201d compared to the U.S., Germany and France.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wrapper yf-eondll\" data-testid=\"inarticle-ad\"><\/div>\n<h2 id=\"\" class=\"header-scroll yf-gn6wdt\">Problems ahead for America<\/h2>\n<p class=\"yf-1090901\">However, Dalio was equally pessimistic about the United States. While acknowledging its culture of entrepreneurship and innovation, he pointed to severe challenges across the board. The U.S. has a significant debt problem, and its internal political landscape is dangerously polarized by wealth and values gaps, putting democracy itself at risk. Furthermore, he argued that it\u2019s in a \u201cgreat power conflict\u201d with China and its allies, and the two countries are locked in a technology war that will determine the future world order. \u201cThe winner of the technology war is going to win all wars,\u201d Dalio stated, referencing historical precedents like the development of nuclear weapons.<\/p>\n<p>____<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/news\/ray-dalio-warns-heading-very-161147962.html?\">https:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/news\/ray-dalio-warns-heading-very-161147962.html?<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-36963","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36963","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=36963"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36963\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=36963"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=36963"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation.info\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=36963"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}